WA Firearm Law Reforms - Monday 16 October announcement (2024)

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alexjones wrote:I am hearing rumours that it is getting harder for people in WA to send their guns to east coast dealers. If there is any truth to this it will be hard for them to get their guns out of state before they are stolen by the government. I wonder how many people will drive to Adelaide and store them at dealers there.

Any idea why? What's the problem?

mchughcb wrote:Well the Bill just got passed. Cooke is crowing all about it.

"Get another hobby" - Papalia is just beside himself.

Well Ill be watching usedguns for any what pops up in the next few months.

yup , they passed their more restrictive laws . probably saved one or two lives . now what are they going to do about the hundreds of suicides . let's not discuss THAT , hey ministers and politicians

i wonder how many folks in WA are going to move east ?

mchughcb wrote:Well the Bill just got passed. Cooke is crowing all about it.

"Get another hobby" - Papalia is just beside himself.

Well Ill be watching usedguns for any what pops up in the next few months.

I missed that. I'm guessing that's the lower house??

Oldbloke wrote:If you find this page, at the bottom you can download 6 xlxs sheets. Death by each state for 2022.

Just looking on mobile looks like 2022 in WA 5 murders/manslaughter by firearms. (I think.)
I'll have a closer look later.

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https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/healt ... s-of-death

Sooo, 5 murders using a firearm in WA in 2022. (Criminal acts, not including a few suicides)

Had a quick look, 473 suicides in WA 2022.

Doing this on the mobile, but pretty sure it's right.

UNBELIEVABLE. ZERO logic.

bigrich wrote::

i wonder how many folks in WA are going to move east ?

None hopefully

deye243 wrote:

bigrich wrote::

i wonder how many folks in WA are going to move east ?

None hopefully

Not many are going to move interstate because of a sport. Then there is family and work. Their f*cked

deye243 wrote:

bigrich wrote::

i wonder how many folks in WA are going to move east ?

None hopefully

I live in south east Queensland. Outside of Brisbane city, it was all bush or farmland when I was a kid. I used to shoot where there’s urban sprawl now. The Gold Coast was like a retirement home for locals in the 70’s. Now it’s an overpriced tacky tourist destination.The amount of interstate immigration is well above overseas immigration in the last few years. When dictator Dan was doing his thing, there was a flood of Victorians up here. And due to the socialist labour government, there’s plenty still coming. The way WA is being run, I wouldn’t be surprised to see more WA number plates on cars around here. Victoria the smart state, yeah right.

Mmm. I signed the e-petition, you know, the largest in WA history that was simply ignored

Just got a text message from WAPOL that its law now - so heads up, we're coming for you ...

Anyway, this post is not about that. Putting in my details to sign off on the e-petition now finds me getting spammed by an MLC with something that tries hard to be some sort of newsletter but is just bizarre partizan rubbish of the type you usually see going on in parliamentary question time.

I find it hard to get through a read tbh so perhaps I've missed something important, but I don't remember this MLC, in amongst the ranting, saying something simple such as - we'll repeal this new firearm law within 100 days of taking office - or something similar. The spammy emails are just a bunch of rubbish about labor bad, liberals good ... vote for us.

Why would I?

If the WA libs were not as limp wristed as they are, and have been for years, then they'd be a proper force to be reckoned with and could oppose and prevent the passing of such laws in the first place. Unsurprisingly then my take is that the WA libs don't give a s**t either - and the ridiculous state of affairs thats been building for decades will just be further built upon when an opportunity arises.

Am I just fully black-pilled?

bigrich wrote:... The way WA is being run, I wouldn’t be surprised to see more WA number plates on cars around here.

Its fermenting in my mind. Can I convert what is already 60% work-from-home business activity into a QLD residential address and fly-in-fly-out to WA for those face to face contacts that can't be avoided?

I think I'll start a thread about this - its a larger subject really than the recent WA gun law changes alone.

moopere wrote:

bigrich wrote:... The way WA is being run, I wouldn’t be surprised to see more WA number plates on cars around here.

Its fermenting in my mind. Can I convert what is already 60% work-from-home business activity into a QLD residential address and fly-in-fly-out to WA for those face to face contacts that can't be avoided?

I think I'll start a thread about this - its a larger subject really than the recent WA gun law changes alone.

i've got a boss who does facetime meetings on the internet all the time . queensland is the last old school state, but it's changing . urban sprawl inhabited by potato heads , and inner city yuppies who increasingly support the greens

your allowed up to 30 cat B firearms in this state , i'm not sure there is a limit on cat A. "like for like" is another good thing . you can take your firearm and trade it/consign it for sale and swap it out for another gun in the same caliber and action on the spot . no waiting for PTA's .

i've got a mate i discuss this sort of thing with , and i tell him live it now, cause one day this will be "the good old days"

bigrich wrote:

moopere wrote:

bigrich wrote:... The way WA is being run, I wouldn’t be surprised to see more WA number plates on cars around here.

Its fermenting in my mind. Can I convert what is already 60% work-from-home business activity into a QLD residential address and fly-in-fly-out to WA for those face to face contacts that can't be avoided?

I think I'll start a thread about this - its a larger subject really than the recent WA gun law changes alone.

i've got a boss who does facetime meetings on the internet all the time . queensland is the last old school state, but it's changing . urban sprawl inhabited by potato heads , and inner city yuppies who increasingly support the greens

your allowed up to 30 cat B firearms in this state , i'm not sure there is a limit on cat A. "like for like" is another good thing . you can take your firearm and trade it/consign it for sale and swap it out for another gun in the same caliber and action on the spot . no waiting for PTA's .

i've got a mate i discuss this sort of thing with , and i tell him live it now, cause one day this will be "the good old days"

Hate to admit it. But I reckon your spot on.

Oh, just got a retraction from WAPOL about the earlier text message that they sent out ... perhaps its not yet law? Followed up immediately by an email from the WA Nationals talking about the errant text messages.

To me, such a farcical debacle simply means that WAPOL is absolutely chomping at the bit to get started raiding people - they can barely contain their glee at the prospect.

moopere wrote:Oh, just got a retraction from WAPOL about the earlier text message that they sent out ... perhaps its not yet law? Followed up immediately by an email from the WA Nationals talking about the errant text messages.

To me, such a farcical debacle simply means that WAPOL is absolutely chomping at the bit to get started raiding people - they can barely contain their glee at the prospect.

Saw that tonight. What a farce. But they are getting what they wanted from the Labor government.

Oldbloke wrote:Strange it's passed both houses in two days. Very unusual.

Political control and overreach by our politicians and government is getting more and more out of hand. Land grab by First Nations groups is going on in various states with non indigenous peoples effectively banned from some areas. Fraser Island, great keppel island and some areas north of Brisbane are being claimed, not to mention state forest debacle in Victoria. State governments are doing semi secret deals with First Nations folks after the voice vote failed. The Labour Party, or as aunty Pauline termed them “champagne socialists “ are ignoring the best interests of the majority of Australian’s , and doing things to their own self righteousness woke agenda. I hope they get absolutely destroyed politically next election. At least the national’s in WA seemed to make an attempt at stopping the new law changes. Lib’s just folded to labour. Even though firearms deaths are an extremely small number compared to suicide/ mental health issues, it’s getting overblown attention. This WILL have a domino effect in other labour run states, as they all rush to protect the public from the five or so legal gun owners who go off the rails, usually ending tragically because the system fails to act on it’s own rules. I hope this forum is monitored. Maybe someone from the Feds might see the sense in what I’ve posted and by some miracle attitudes in government might change. But I’ve probably got a better chance of having a beer with Santa Claus. Just my thoughts over my early morning coffee, before I go to work and put money into the coffers of the socialists running this country

bigrich wrote:

moopere wrote:

bigrich wrote:... The way WA is being run, I wouldn’t be surprised to see more WA number plates on cars around here.

Its fermenting in my mind. Can I convert what is already 60% work-from-home business activity into a QLD residential address and fly-in-fly-out to WA for those face to face contacts that can't be avoided?

I think I'll start a thread about this - its a larger subject really than the recent WA gun law changes alone.

i've got a boss who does facetime meetings on the internet all the time . queensland is the last old school state, but it's changing . urban sprawl inhabited by potato heads , and inner city yuppies who increasingly support the greens

your allowed up to 30 cat B firearms in this state , i'm not sure there is a limit on cat A. "like for like" is another good thing . you can take your firearm and trade it/consign it for sale and swap it out for another gun in the same caliber and action on the spot . no waiting for PTA's .

i've got a mate i discuss this sort of thing with , and i tell him live it now, cause one day this will be "the good old days"

Hey mate that is not correct. You can have an unlimited amount so long as you can support the genuine reason of course. That 30 you speak of is in regards to storage at an address. More than 30 you need to up your storage at that address from a simple gun safe/s into a vault storage gun room type set up.

Also I will add to your list with what is good about QLD is that a PTA lasts for 6 months, you can buy any size ammo under 1 inch in calibre even if you don't own that gun and it is the only state that lets you ship a gun from within QLD to your front door. Other states can only get it shipped to a dealer. Not to mention whilst appearance laws are on the books they are not implemented.

Also on private land a kid over 11 but under 18 can shoot a gun unlicensed whilst under the supervision of a licensed user. So your kids or gran kids can shoot on the farm without being licensed. Stupid how when they turn 18 it becomes ilegal but that's gun laws for you, always stupid haha.

Only exception for unlicensed over 18 gun use is at a range or a direct family member or farm worker doing farm duties under the authority of the farmer.

Well, RAMED it through. Exactly like Jack boot Jeff Kennet in the 1990s.

They are all tared with the same brush. The one labled power and greed.

https://shootersunion.com.au/western-au ... australia/

bigrich wrote:

moopere wrote:

bigrich wrote:... The way WA is being run, I wouldn’t be surprised to see more WA number plates on cars around here.

Its fermenting in my mind. Can I convert what is already 60% work-from-home business activity into a QLD residential address and fly-in-fly-out to WA for those face to face contacts that can't be avoided?

I think I'll start a thread about this - its a larger subject really than the recent WA gun law changes alone.

i've got a boss who does facetime meetings on the internet all the time . queensland is the last old school state, but it's changing . urban sprawl inhabited by potato heads , and inner city yuppies who increasingly support the greens

your allowed up to 30 cat B firearms in this state , i'm not sure there is a limit on cat A. "like for like" is another good thing . you can take your firearm and trade it/consign it for sale and swap it out for another gun in the same caliber and action on the spot . no waiting for PTA's .

i've got a mate i discuss this sort of thing with , and i tell him live it now, cause one day this will be "the good old days"

Plenty of retired cat ladies voting greens too.

Oldbloke wrote:

alexjones wrote:I am hearing rumours that it is getting harder for people in WA to send their guns to east coast dealers. If there is any truth to this it will be hard for them to get their guns out of state before they are stolen by the government. I wonder how many people will drive to Adelaide and store them at dealers there.

Any idea why? What's the problem?

Something to do with how they ship it there. Apparently there is only like one place in Perth that can do the shipping.

alexjones wrote:

bigrich wrote:

moopere wrote:

bigrich wrote:... The way WA is being run, I wouldn’t be surprised to see more WA number plates on cars around here.

Its fermenting in my mind. Can I convert what is already 60% work-from-home business activity into a QLD residential address and fly-in-fly-out to WA for those face to face contacts that can't be avoided?

I think I'll start a thread about this - its a larger subject really than the recent WA gun law changes alone.

i've got a boss who does facetime meetings on the internet all the time . queensland is the last old school state, but it's changing . urban sprawl inhabited by potato heads , and inner city yuppies who increasingly support the greens

your allowed up to 30 cat B firearms in this state , i'm not sure there is a limit on cat A. "like for like" is another good thing . you can take your firearm and trade it/consign it for sale and swap it out for another gun in the same caliber and action on the spot . no waiting for PTA's .

i've got a mate i discuss this sort of thing with , and i tell him live it now, cause one day this will be "the good old days"

Hey mate that is not correct. You can have an unlimited amount so long as you can support the genuine reason of course. That 30 you speak of is in regards to storage at an address. More than 30 you need to up your storage at that address from a simple gun safe/s into a vault storage gun room type set up.

Also I will add to your list with what is good about QLD is that a PTA lasts for 6 months, you can buy any size ammo under 1 inch in calibre even if you don't own that gun and it is the only state that lets you ship a gun from within QLD to your front door. Other states can only get it shipped to a dealer. Not to mention whilst appearance laws are on the books they are not implemented.

Also on private land a kid over 11 but under 18 can shoot a gun unlicensed whilst under the supervision of a licensed user. So your kids or gran kids can shoot on the farm without being licensed. Stupid how when they turn 18 it becomes ilegal but that's gun laws for you, always stupid haha.

Only exception for unlicensed over 18 gun use is at a range or a direct family member or farm worker doing farm duties under the authority of the farmer.

Ah, stand corrected. You can have over 30 with a vault. So that, and the other things you mentioned, mean Queensland’s even better for gun ownership than I thought.. you learn something new everyday, and it’s part of the reason I get on this forum

Oldbloke wrote:Well, RAMED it through. Exactly like Jack boot Jeff Kennet in the 1990s.

They are all tared with the same brush. The one labled power and greed.

https://shootersunion.com.au/western-au ... australia/

Yeah, and it says a lot that Kennet had a public spew over Dan andrews being nominated for an order of Australia medal……

bigrich wrote:

Oldbloke wrote:Well, RAMED it through. Exactly like Jack boot Jeff Kennet in the 1990s.

They are all tared with the same brush. The one labled power and greed.

https://shootersunion.com.au/western-au ... australia/

Yeah, and it says a lot that Kennet had a public spew over Dan andrews being nominated for an order of Australia medal……

Hypocrites the lot of them.

bigrich wrote:

Ah, stand corrected. You can have over 30 with a vault. So that, and the other things you mentioned, mean Queensland’s even better for gun ownership than I thought.. you learn something new everyday, and it’s part of the reason I get on this forum

Well its 30 at the address but you could store more at another address or with a dealer. But if you want more than 30 at an address you need a vault yes.

If you have a spare 10-20 grand build yourself a gun room at your house mate. Proper good investment haha

The only law that is bad in QLD that other states don't have is the remove bolt or break the action, no 50BMG and no state hunting.

When the psychiatric assessments start it will be mayhem.

A few gun hating psychiatrists will refuse everyone. And the wait times to see a psychiatrist will be horrendous. And cops will use it as an excuse to confiscate if you don't get a result on time.

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